Saturday 17 August 2013

Carnivore RDA Chart, The End of A Long Road

Amino Acids:
NutrientUnitUSDA RDAcRDANPCD*Recommended Foods
Total Proteing/kg0.8 (54.5g/150lbs)1.2/lean
(82g/150lbs@20%bf)
97g
(1.78g/kg lean)

Serine+Glycinemg/kgN/A200
(13,620mg/150lbs)
13,700mgGlycine: gelatin
Serine: muscle meat
Methionine mg/kg10.4 (708mg/150lbs)30 (2,088mg/150lbs)2,180mgEgg yolks


Vitamins:
NutrientUnitUSDA RDAcRDANPCD*Recommended Foods
Vit AIU3,00010,00010,927Liver, egg yolks, dairy fats, cod liver oil
Vit B1mg1.20.50.52Pork meat, pork heart, lamb kidneys
Vit B2mg1.3N/A3.10Liver, kidneys, heart, egg yolks, meat
Vit B3mg16N/A25Liver, fish, kidneys, heart, tongue, meat, egg yolks
Vit B5mg5N/A7.47Liver, kidneys, egg yolks, heart
Vit B6mg1.30.016mg/g protein
(1.6mg/100g protein)
1.66
(0.0171mg/g protein)
Liver, kidneys, tongue, heart, meat
Folateug400~200191Liver especially poultry, egg yolks
Vit B12ug2.412+27Liver, kidneys, meat, egg yolks
Biotinug3030+50 (estimate)Egg yolks, liver
Cholinemg550~550534Egg yolks, liver, meat
Vit Cmg90017 (when raw)Raw organs, but none strictly needed
Vit DIU200Use blood levels469Oily fish, pastured lard; sunlight.
Vit D should always be eaten/
supplemented based on blood levels
Vit Emg150.65mg/g PUFA5.60
(0.67mg/g PUFA)
Grass-fed fats/yolks/dairy has more,
though plenty in grain-fed
Vit K1ug120053None needed with sufficient K2
Vit K2ugN/A80?70.3-86.6+ (estimate)Grass-fed fats/yolks/dairy has more,
though plenty in grain-fed; supplement
1mg every 2 weeks if paranoid


Minerals:
NutrientUnitUSDA RDAcRDANPCD*Recommended Foods
Calciummg1,000
(WAPF: 680)
544
min: 200-300
558Bone broth, egg shells,
fish with bones
Phosphorusmg900
(WAPF: 1,300)
8781,149Protein-rich foods, bones
Magnesiummg420420 ideally,
~170 minimally
418Supplement 300mg citrate
Potassiummg4,7002-3,0002,567Losalt, meat (juices
from cooked meat very rich)
Sodiummg1,5003-5,0003,946Salt, meat (juices
from cooked meat very rich)
Copperug9001-2.41.28Liver, kidneys, heart
Zincmg1112-2915.40Muscle meat
Seleniumug55~200194Pork, kidneys (pork best)
Manganesemg2.311.24Spices, tea
Ironmg181820Liver, heart, muscle meat
Iodineug1501,000-3,000Without seaweed: ~600
With seaweed: ~3,115
(estimates)
Shellfish, fish, sea weed
Molybdenumug4560?+70.5+ (estimate)Liver
Chromiumug25-3550-200260+ (estimate)Liver



* Nutritionally Perfect cRDA Carnivore Diet:
10oz 30% fat beef/lamb (~284g)
80g beef/lamb tallow
2oz mackerel (~57g) [or 75g salmon or 40g sardines or 5g/week DHA fish oil]
1 2/3oz pork liver (~47g)
1 1/4oz pork kidney (~43g)
2 large eggs

3tbsp gelatin powder (or equiv from feet/hooves, skin, heads, tails, ears, cartilage), and
~1 cup bone broth (alt: egg shells)

2g potassium salt
9.5g sodium salt (unrefined sea salt recommended for ultra-trace minerals)

Technically plant foods:
1/2tsp tea or other manganese-rich spices (or alternatively shellfish such as mussels)
1g  kelp/kombu flakes, for iodine (or shellfish)

Supplements:
300mg magnesium citrate

Nutrition:
~2100 calories, 97g protein (20% of calories), 2.3g carbohydrates (<1%), 184g fat (80%).

Ratios, etc.:
Calcium:Phosphorus = 0.49 (WAPF ideal 0.52)
Zinc:Copper = 12.0 (ideal ~12)
Potassium:Sodium = 0.65 (ideal ~0.6-0.66)
Omega-6:omega-3 = 2.6 (ideal <2, good <4)
Saturated:Mono-unsaturated = 1 (ideal ~1)
Poly-unsaturated = 3.6% of calories (ideal ≤4%)

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Tweaks:

Less salts:
Using no potassium salt and only 3.5g salt maintains the potassium:sodium ratio at a lower total level of these minerals. This should be fine for those who've been on a ketogenic diet for a while rather than those just starting.

Cod liver oil:
Substitute 4.5ml cod liver oil for the pork liver and use 3g beef liver or 4g lamb liver for the copper.

9 comments:

  1. This might be a stupid question, but I have to ask: are these numbers based on COOKED meats, or raw?

    I've been dabbling a little in the NDB on proteins for my kidney-compromised cat, and I've been quite startled at the difference between nutrition levels of raw vs. cooked meat, and it seems nearly all is lost when the meat is cooked.

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    1. Cats need raw meat, humans are do fine on either.

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  2. Hello, first post - your site is great. This is great info, thanks

    Rob Cosimo

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  4. I would like to ask the same question as Wencypoo...is this chart based on cooked or raw meat and the mangnesium citrate supplement, what kind brand do you buy?

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    1. The numbers are based on measuring raw meat, but cooked meat is fine to consume. I buy NOW brand magnesium citrate powder in the big tubs.

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    2. So you eat a raw meat diet?

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